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Racial Skills - Design Discussion

Discussion in 'Game Design Discussion' started by Umberto, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. Donaddor Lightbringer

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    Though I think this is kinda beyond dwarf racial perks, think one dwarf natural racial perk, though maybe controversial but makes some sense, even yield some good for them pvp wise is:

    Well, first I just wanna start of saying: One of the first things I noticed as a new player, a long long time ago in a galaxy far away, is that dwarfs are like...

    idk.. Not Dwarfs... Nah meen?

    They are a little stunted in height, yeah, but not dwarf size. Thicc, a bit stubby one might argue, but they aren't dwarf size dwarfs, at all.

    Know the hitbox being smaller is a big deal, dwarf reach/hitbox comparisons to other races would need to be considered, jump height would be naturally be effected, but dwarfs could be dwarf size, which I know is bascially blasphemy to some.

    In terms of trying to artificially give them more bonus pvp wise, think maybe instead of a stat change, something like making them smaller to look like dwarfs and discussion on the implications might be a better way to think about Dwarf racial traits particularly.

    Tradeoffs gains/loses could be argued for days, let alone the case to actually try to reason on the tradeoffs so that dwarfs could possibly look more like dwarfs and less like giant dwarfs. Which I know was in existence forever guys, just sayin. That darkfall 2010 dwarf skin looked pretty good on the bandits in Unholy Wars. His size was around dwarf too.

    I am sorry to my friends and family for making this post.
     
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  2. Ironbourne

    Ironbourne Goblin Warrior
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    Give us 50 more hp end game or faster health regen , one or other since we are born from the mountain and rugged like the stones and ore that made us.
     
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    Slayven Black Knight
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    Got me wanting to go back to my dorf roots damn u Andrew damn u
     
  4. Ogrinn

    Ogrinn Deadeye
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    Take away the HP bonus from dwarfs and give them a vitality bonus in its place. Why do orcs get carry capacity and not dwarfs? Make their active racial a passive and tone it down or give them another combat buff. Or just give them a shorter slender model like the DF 2012 one.
     
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    Bojangles Celestial
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    get out of here hammer with your dorf talk
     
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  6. Ogrinn

    Ogrinn Deadeye
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    dwarf is master race but why not master racials? Make Dwarfs Great Again!

    Give dwarfs passive life regeneration for their 4th racial and keep the rest the same.
     
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  7. helgrik

    helgrik Spellgazer
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    A lot of people who played dwarf, don't anymore.
     
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  8. Bartlebe

    Bartlebe Celestial
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    Dwarven racials suck still. Not enough to temp people away from Human male.
     
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    bertacus Goblin Shaman
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    esau you know what u did.. and dwarfs are perfct how they are right now....
     
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  10. Sero

    Sero Eodrin
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    Giving dwarves a built in stam regen/stam reduction instead of making it active would probably be better than the current form. Or make it a Self buff that lasts like 10-15 minutes.

    Other than that, maybe a special attack that does full damage AND disables (not that current disable length which needs to be fixed anyways, but like 4-5 seconds).
     
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  11. Ironbourne

    Ironbourne Goblin Warrior
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    One things for certain there will be a lack of Dwarven population in this new Darktall .
     
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  12. Ogrinn

    Ogrinn Deadeye
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    I will be playing dwarf, because they are bad ass. However they do have a disadvantage being so large in terms of hit box and character model. They are bigger than humans, have the same hit box and are as wide as a female orc, but their melee reach is decent. I wish we could get the 2012 model or at least use the model from the NPC's they are shorter/slim, but that would entail redoing all the armour models for them.

    After testing Dwarven Perseverance I think its great and adds a uniqueness being the only active use racial. It works with unfazed, has a good duration and a decent cool down. So it should remain the same but dwarfs do still need some love.

    My vote is give them a passive life regeneration, quick, easy, can be changed later and feeds into the hardy enduring image of dwarfs.
     
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  13. DarkGhost25

    DarkGhost25 Black Knight
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    I wanted to change the dwarf racial to health regen too. I am not a fan of their active, mainly because there is an enchant that is very similar and I feel like it makes it irrelevant.
     
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  14. Sero

    Sero Eodrin
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    their hitbox is the same as every other race, the only difference between the races is hitbox height. This has been tested, if anything this gives them an advantage, because if someone aims for the shoulders/arms it misses.
     
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    Ogrinn Deadeye
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    Okay, didn't know that about hit boxes but knew about the arm thing.
     
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    Bojangles Celestial
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    passive life regeneration would be ridiculous
     
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    onslaught Frostjarl

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    Hahahaha, Hammer desperately trying to make dwarves OP.
     
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  18. Lord Zanuul

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    Poor hammer

     
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  19. helgrik

    helgrik Spellgazer
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    Dwarves should be op. I'd like to see something compensate for their character model being what it is - overweight human with a beard.
     
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    brahji Black Knight
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    Did they implement these racials yet? The dorf one is amazing. feels good to be a dorf
     
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