I remember Jonah Veil threatening to level Calfadar when Imperium held it, because the mass of noobs inside didn't want to fight 15+ Council of Elders. Of course we went out and fought him because we knew him and his no lifers would destroy the noobie city, which harbored a ton of beginner payers. And of course, the band of vets destroyed a unorganized and inexperienced group of new players. That is the mindset of vets. They pick on the weak and then tell you why you need to deal with it.