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Deployable Player Vendors - Initial Discussion

Discussion in 'Design Discussions' started by MWTaylor, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. Slayven

    Slayven Black Knight
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    They want u to travel
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    It has a ui now for searching
     
  2. Slave Labor

    Slave Labor Goblin Scout

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    Can we get mobile vendors that travel between two or more points?
     
  3. onslaught

    onslaught Frostjarl

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    Probably not. Axilmar said that roaming mobs is not possible with current Darkfall tech, so I am assuming that isn't possible as well.
     
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  4. Dagon Raysler

    Dagon Raysler Goblin Warrior
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    For advertisment, maybe each tile has a bulletin board, located someplace easy to access and in a lawful area, when clicked on have it open a listing of all available vendors on that tile with a breif description of wares and general location or coords. Could re-purpose the Task systems "book" interface.
     
  5. Shivs

    Shivs Goblin Warlord

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    If that was there intention, they could leave them as house vendors and save a lot of development and get on with something else, letting them being deployable in NPC cities, removes the travel requirement that they originally had in DF1
     
  6. Inkarnation

    Inkarnation Chosen of Khamset
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    what i REALLY want to know is

    whats the point of deployable vendors tho?

    these genuinely just seem like a waste of dev time to me
     
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  7. purplehays1

    purplehays1 Goblin Scout

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    I agree completely, unless they come with a method of getting to sanguine easily they r 100% a waste of dev time.
     
  8. Dagon Raysler

    Dagon Raysler Goblin Warrior
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    The purpose of Deployable vedors?
    Not everyone has a house & house vendor. In fact most players do not. They are trying to open up more of the game to casual (ish) players and smaller (less zergish) clan.
    With only so many vendors per area, Sang will not be the only game around. Outskirt cities can service players with -200 alignment , as not every player has an ALT parked in Sang. or a blue clanmate that can always drop what they are doing to middleman a trade. The idea is not a waste of DEV time, it is seeing the needs of the long (er) game. The execution of the idea.....we will see.
     
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  9. Cagori Rei

    Cagori Rei Windlord
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    like a market?
    dfuw had it :p
     
  10. onslaught

    onslaught Frostjarl

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    Sounds like a LOT of running around and running around is boring.
     
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  11. Shivs

    Shivs Goblin Warlord

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    don't want to pick your thoughts apart, but think on it, you want 40 q4 venom, are you going to run around 300 vendors spread around the world with your gold checking the inventory ?

    I think your more likely to head to a trade area and pray for a web site telling you what vendor to go to or trade chat spam.

    Yes ones in clan cities will make orders for gear and clan shops easier than trying to sell from the clan banks.

    Yes, you may see a set of vendors in a popular chaos city to cater for the few unclanned reds, if a major trader thinks it will be profitable, maybe ?
     
  12. Zoop Keep

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    Racial city's need to be the spot where the placeble vendors should be placed, new players would develop faster if they had acces to affordable weapons and armor they can use in the first few days of exploring and skilling up in the game.

    More village vendors is no solution at all, the trade vendors are 2 dangerous for some players if the value is high etc etc.
     
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  13. Quin Tessence

    Quin Tessence Frostjarl
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    To place objects in a NPC so that other players can obtain these objects in exchange for currency.

    Also to create inflation and encourage anti social behavior, I approve!

    Now we just have to pet BPG into submission until they take a few wacks at the party system!

    At very least they could remove all the damage on the Ember Grenada so we can spam that stuff at San for a party
     
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  14. Fishsauce

    Fishsauce Goblin Warrior

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    Nobody wants to travel to trade
    Nobody wants to force to have a trade alt to trade
    Nobody wants to browse through 200 player vendors to find what they want.

    just scrap this whole idea and put in an Auction House already. Problems solved.
     
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  15. NonFactor

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    i honestly prefer a auction house.
     
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  16. rikilii

    rikilii Gravelord

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    However you do this, you have to make sure that these vendors don't essentially become long term, indestructible strongboxes. To be honest, unless you limit them to being placed within a few hundred meters of a bank, I don't see how you do it.

    I'd hate to see the area around every golem spawn turn into a shanty town.
     
  17. kilrain

    kilrain Eodrin
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    The current thought is to require the use of a bank to "package" items before you can place it up for sale. You open your bank and while the item is still in your bank you right click -> package for sale. The packaged item takes up the same amount of space as the original item, but cannot be used. You walk the item over to the vendor and place it for sale.
     
  18. ZeuZ

    ZeuZ Skeleton Archer

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    There needs to be a neutral zone to where everyone can go to (even reds) just for trading. Attacking people is not allowed and you cannot craft there. I'm thinking of a Sea Dogs Rest type deal (little city like area where everyone went to trade in Shadowbane). Just a few banks (so its not super crowed) and a huge area for people to throw down their player vendors or /trade if they want to. Just add another icon like the bindstone recall and capital recall with a Trade City Recall, and let be on some type of timer like the other 2. Can't go wrong with a central hub for everyone to go to trade.
     
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  19. Mycke

    Mycke Black Knight

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    I have two questions...

    1. Why are vendors better than a market place for major cities? Is it because the base code is already there?
    2. Since vendors already exist, why is it taking so long to get them in?

    I personally think if you are just going vendors 'for now' with actual markets down the line. I would just get them in game to fill the void and to be used for out of the way places and then work on a cleaner market for each capital city. I believe this because if one of the goals of vendors is to help newer players have access to mats and gear, then vendors really don't solve the problem being a bit messy with each seller having their own stall still makes it very unstreamlined. I really don't think its worth putting a lot of effort into a complex and messy vendor system and instead that time would be better spent on an intuitive market place system.
     
  20. kilrain

    kilrain Eodrin
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    1.1 I can't answer fully as I wasn't a part of this particular discussion. Hopefully someone who was will be able to chime in and answer this.
    1.2 No, they are being written from scratch.
    2. Because it's different. See 1.2
     
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